PT feat Art of Growth • S3E13

Apr 15, 2026    Pastor Jason Miller, Kyle Fever

Your Enneagram type is not who you are—it’s where you start." Today on Pocket Theology, we’re joined by Joel Hubbard and Jim Zartman of The Art of Growth to discuss why self-awareness is crucial for following Jesus.


We tackle the tough questions: Why are many Christians resistant to personality tools? What is "spiritual bypassing," and how do we use religious language to avoid doing our inner work? From Jason’s journey as a Type 7 to Leah’s experience as a Type 5, we explore how opening our eyes to our "default settings" allows us to encounter God’s grace in the places we usually try to hide.


Whether you're an Enneagram nerd or a skeptic, this conversation is an invitation to move from "propositional knowledge" about God to a "participatory relationship" with Him.


Highlights include:

• The Purity Mindset: Why we obsess over origins and miss the truth that belongs to God.

• Hunters, Farmers, & Teamers: A look at the instincts that nuance our personality.

• The Way of the Cross vs. The Sword: Why picking up your cross means releasing your need for superiority.


To connect, email podcast@zionclearlake.orgzionclearlake.org/pockettheology